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Swift 1.6vvt engine into a 2007 vvt jimny project

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13 Jan 2019 21:31 #200682 by Riccy

invincible wrote: stupid question why swap the crank pulley?


Not a stupid question,

Its to keep the belts the standard length and everything spinning at the correct speed (alternator/water pump wouldnt change but PAS and AC would run faster).

Also worth fitting a new one at the swap time as they are a known failure item.

This could even be an advantage having the PAS running faster if fitting larger tyres. Obvs, a different belt would be needed for the PAS/AC to standard (cant remember what now, but easy enough to measure).

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14 Jan 2019 17:40 #200731 by invincible
cheers riccy, so the SSS one is a diff size to the jimny one? hence diff speeds,
do you use the 1.6 injectors , i,m guessing so. struggling to find a pre 2010
bare SSS engine , none on fleabay. crank pulley and belt tensioner from martin?

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14 Jan 2019 17:46 #200732 by Riccy
The SSS and the Liana both have the same pulley. The inside belt is the same as for a Jimny, the outside has a larger pulley than the Jimny, thats the only difference.

Speaking of Liana... you could look for a donor engine there maybe? or even from an SX4. Its even possible to fit a M15 from an ignis sport ;-)

As long as it says M16 and you match VVT or non VVT to what you have already it will work and produce the same power ~ roughly 100bhp.

[Tip - VVT M series engines have a bulge on the crank pulley end for the VVT bit, non VVT doesnt have this bulge]

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14 Jan 2019 17:50 #200733 by Riccy
yes crank pulley, tensioner and oil filter stand are all best prices from Martin (and best service). About the only thing he doesn't regularly sell are oils/fluids.

Yes 1.6 injectors are best to use. You could use denso injectors for a mazda MX5, but it may over-fuel then. Liana inlet manifolds fit i think so worth getting if you find one. Also the earlier (2004) liana throttle body is larger diameter as well as plug-n-play fit ;-)

Or you could mess about with a Rav4 throttle body and make that work for even more air in :laugh:

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22 Oct 2020 06:01 #229378 by sealine150
I have done all ready the same setup with the first post. Remap the ECU with M16 fuel plan and still have detonation after 4000rpm or hard push! Any suggested issues?

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22 Oct 2020 17:47 #229406 by Riccy
How have you remapped the ECU then? You are the first to say you have done that...

Which injectors are you using? A rich fuel plan will top out the standard 1.3's pretty quickly or at least run them at a very high duty cycle, but it sounds like you are too lean? I know the 1.8 with throttle bodies & twin injectors I run now in Ulysses puts a LOT more fuel in at higher RPMs, but thats because its aftermarket DTAfast S80 ECU running everything now (albeit in an M18).

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23 Oct 2020 06:52 #229423 by sealine150
I send the stock ECU to a developer team and they remap with m16 plan.
I use the blue injectors from SSS and i am plan to change the airbox and the maf case with a Φ56 in order to correct the messure of maf sensor.
Its my last chance to correct the detonation i use to have after 4000rpm or after hard push.
After that i will try an aftermarket ECU.
I also try to find if the M16 intake manifold can to fit to my jimny and after that a bigger throttle body.

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23 Oct 2020 17:02 #229436 by Riccy
OK then, the remap must be the problem by the sounds of it. Sounds like you need a standard jimny ECU (and that means also the ignition barrel and keys/locks need swapped to match the new ecu key coding), or your aftermarket suggestion.

I got my DTAfast ECU properly tuned on a rolling road by a specialist, its the only way to get anything like the correct fuelling mix into the engine for what inlet and exhaust it has. It is also an expensive thing to do properly.

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